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Gestart door The_Rep0rter, 18/07/2005 om 20:48:45

The_Rep0rter

Some historians are of the opinion that the progeny of Ibrahim, 'alayhi sallam, Bani Israel settled in Morocco. Roman and Greek dynasties also ruled these terrirtories. The world-renowned Carthage belonged to North Africa. The Goths had also taken Morocco by a storm as they did in Iberia (Spain). The Berbers inhabited Morocco and its adjoining eastern territories and were formed, in fact, from the totality of the Arabs, Syrians, Egyptians, Greeks, Persians and Romans. Territorial conditions and climatic influences carved them out as a people distinct from all others in respect of taste, temperament and disposition made them inclined to harshness, cruelty and barbarity and they remained so until they embraced Islam. Whenever they forgot their Islamic discipline their old sense of enmity, rivalry and feuds rose again.

Morocco was conquered by Uqba bin Nafe. Even though it revolted against the Muslim rule eacht time it was subdued. Musa bin Nusayr, Governor of Africa and Morocco had entrusted the rule of Morocco to Tariq bin Ziyad. Tariq and Musa bin Nusayr then conquered Spain. Shortly after the conquest of Morocco and Spain, the Berbers started insurgent activities. In Spain they were easily crushed, but their uprising in North Africa lingered on for longer period. Such a disturbing situation drew the attention of forces antagonistic (vijandig) to Islam towards this country.

We have already made mention of Imam Muhammad bin Abdullah and his family while dealing with the Abbasid dynasty and how they were ruined in Makkah. A member of the same family named Idris reached Morocco along with his servant. He settled in Prolila whose chief Abdul Hameed greeted him honorably. Gradually Idris become popular among Zawagha, Lawata, Zanata, Sadrota, Meknes and the Ghanaza clans of the Berbers. With the efforts of Ishaq bin Muhammad bin Abdul Hameed most of the Muslim clans among the Berbers took the oath of allegiance to Idris's Caliphate. In a very short period Idris built a strong army and waged Jihad on those Berber clans, which still were outside the circle of Islam. After subduing them he managed to teach them Islam and Idris became their Caliph or Sultan.

Idris attacked Tlemcen and the Governor of the province expressed his loyalty to him. Idris made it his capital and built a mosque there. He strengthened his military power very rapidly. His quick progress and expanding area of power and influence made Caliph Harun Rashid anxious. However, he sent his slave Sulaiman bin Jarir to do away with Idris. Sulaiman appeared before Idris as an opponent of Harun Rashid. Idris believed him and eulogized (roemde) him among his courtiers (hovelingen).

Sulaiman gave Idris a kind of tooth powder, which choked him to death and Sulaiman escaped safely.

Soon after the death of Idris his slave Rashid brought to the notice of the people that a Berber salve-girl named Kanzah was pregnant by Idris and they should, therefore, make the oath of allegiance to the child after its birth. In this way, Rashid was able to keep intact the country ruled by Idris. The Berber slave-girl gave birth to a male child. Rashid asked the people to take ba'it at the hand of the child and the people did accordingly. They made ba'it when he was weaned and once again when he was a boy of twelve. The same year ibn Aghlab, the Governor of Africa incited the Berbers against Rashid and he was killed. However, this did not break the ba'it. The boy was also named Idris and came to be known as Idris the second or Idris Junior. After Rashid, abu Khalid bin Yazid bin Ilyas Abdi was appointed instructor.

Being aware of the art of statemanship Idris the second appointed Mus'ab bin Isa Azdi as his Minister. He then gradually expanded his territories and captured almost the whole of Morocco. Men in large numbers from Arabia, Spain, Africa, Egypt, Syria and other far off places came to Idris the second in search of peace and prosperity and added to the splendor and activity of the country. Idris shifted his capital from Prolila, a small town Fez where he laid the foundation of a new city, which flourished very quickly. After initial conflicts with the Berbers Idris succeeded in dominating every tribe and Morocco became a country wholly and solely ruled by Idris the second, independant of the Abbasid Caliphate.

Idris the second or Junior died in 213 AH. and was succeeded by his son Muhammad. It so happened about the same time that Sulaiman bin Abdullah bin Hasan bin Muthana bin Hasan bin Ali bin abi Talib, the full brother of Idris, reached Tlemcen via Egypt and Africa. The Berbers took the oath of allegiance, at his hand he was able to found his rule in Tlemcen.

Kanzah, the mother of Idris the second and the grandmother of Muhammad bin Idris put forward a suggestion that Muhammad alone should not rule the entire country and his brothers should also be given various parts of the country to set up their independent rule. Her proposal was accepted. Accordingly, Muhammad was given Fez and its surrounding areas while among his brothers, Qasim got Tingis (Tanger), Sayut received Tetawin (Tetouan) and Umar was given Tabkisyan, Targha and the rule of Dahajah and Ghamrah tribes. Daud received Hamarah, Matalsol, Tazi, Meknes and Gheyatha tribes. Abdullah got Baghwat, Nafis, Jibal, Madamdah, Lamata, Saus, al-Aqsa. Yahya got Basila, Ara'ish, Darogha and Isa was given Shala, Sala, Azmur and Tamasna and Hamza got Walila and its outskirts. Those who were still young boys were put under the care of their grandmother, Kanzah. Tlemcen was already captured by Sulaiman bin Abdullah. Thus, the mighty Empire of Morocco was cut into pieces by acting upon the suggestion of a woman. After a short time Isa of Azmor attacked his brother Muhammad bin Idris. Muhammad asked his brother Qasim to help in the fight but he refused to obey. Hen then sent Umar to face Isa and the former defeated the latter and attacked the occupied territories. Muhammad then asked Umar to punish Qasim who had defied his order.

Umar attacked Qasim and Qasim was defeated after a bloody encounter. Qasim passed the rest of his life in seclusion, practicing piety and purity of life. Umar attacked the territory of Qasim and thus added to his strength and power yet he remained loyal to his brother, Muhammad. When Umar died in 220 AH Muhammad made his son Ali bin Umar his father's successor.

Seven months after the death of Umar, Muhammad bin Idris also died in 221 AH. He had appointed his 9 year old son, Ali as his successor and crown prince before his dead.

After Muhammad the courtiers and the powerful section of the society were pleased to pledge their support to Ali bin Muhammad. He set himself to rule his country properly. He kept peace throughout his thirteen-year rule. He died in 234 AH and appointed his brother Yahya bin Muhammad as his successor at the time of his death.

Yahya bin Muhammad added much to the power and splendor of his rule. During his tenure the Idris Caliphate came to be counted among the most magnificent states in the world. The population of Fez flourished, trade reached its peak and religious scholars and intellectuals came to join his court.

The_Rep0rter

Study of history sends ambition high, draws toward virtues and keeps away from vices. It develops wisdom and insight, sets farsightedness to grow and creates sense of caution and vigilance. It fills the hart with utmost joy by warding of sadness and gloom. Its study produces in man power to stabilize the truth and falsify the untruth and enhances power of decision. It creates patience and firmness and keeps heart and mind studded with freshness and growth.

In short, knowledge of history is a preacher of thousand preachers and the best source of learning lessons. By studying history, a man finds himself constantly in the company of the Prophets, kings, conquerors, friends of Allaah, wise men, scholars and men of consummate skill and learning, and benefits from the fountain of their knowledge, wisdom, excellence and virtues. And he can easily save himself from the mistakes committed by great kings, viziers, military commanders and philosophers. No other study can fill human hearts with so much joy without putting any mental pressure or causing boredom as a study of history can do.

Samariaan


Isefrawen

Citaat van: MohamedUK op 18/07/2005 om 23:11:34
Vertaling aub.

Hallo minier, zat jij niet in Engeland? Dit moet voor jou errug simpel zijn...

abrid

Precies Jonas dus aan Mo de taak om het te vertalen!!

ameziane

Die Reporter zet hier altijd lappen tekst neer,zonder de bedoeling er bij te zetten. Ik neem hem niet serieus.

allasian

#6
Citaat van: The_Rep0rter op 18/07/2005 om 20:48:45
The Berbers inhabited Morocco and its adjoining eastern territories and were formed, in fact, from the totality of the Arabs, Syrians, Egyptians, Greeks, Persians and Romans.
You can't fool dem youths. Dem Imazighen bestonden lang before arabs,syrians,greeks,persians and romans were formed.

The_Rep0rter

Citaat van: allasian op 20/07/2005 om 14:03:38
Citaat van: The_Rep0rter op 18/07/2005 om 20:48:45
The Berbers inhabited Morocco and its adjoining eastern territories and were formed, in fact, from the totality of the Arabs, Syrians, Egyptians, Greeks, Persians and Romans.
You can't fool dem youths. Dem Imazighen bestonden lang before arabs,syrians,greeks,persians and romans were formed.

Dat wordt ook nergens ontkent slimmie.

The_Rep0rter

Citaat van: MohamedUK op 18/07/2005 om 23:11:34
Vertaling aub.

Het zou goed zijn als iemand dit kan vertalen, ik kan door omstandigheden helaas niet.

allasian

#9
Citaat van: The_Rep0rter op 18/07/2005 om 20:48:45
Some historians are of the opinion that the progeny of Ibrahim, 'alayhi sallam, Bani Israel settled in Morocco. Roman and Greek dynasties also ruled these terrirtories. The world-renowned Carthage belonged to North Africa. The Goths had also taken Morocco by a storm as they did in Iberia (Spain). The Berbers inhabited Morocco and its adjoining eastern territories and were formed, in fact, from the totality of the Arabs, Syrians, Egyptians, Greeks, Persians and Romans. Territorial conditions and climatic influences carved them out as a people distinct from all others in respect of taste, temperament and disposition made them inclined to harshness, cruelty and barbarity and they remained so until they embraced Islam.
The struggle continued, Je moet niet denken dat na de omarming van de Islam alles rozengeur en manenschijn werd. Meneer de Reporter wie heeft deze tekst geschreven ? 
CiteerWhenever they forgot their Islamic discipline their old sense of enmity, rivalry and feuds rose again.
Did the arabs remebered their Islamic discipline? especialy the qonquerors
Citeer
Morocco was conquered by Uqba bin Nafe. Even though it revolted against the Muslim rule eacht time it was subdued. Musa bin Nusayr, Governor of Africa and Morocco had entrusted the rule of Morocco to Tariq bin Ziyad. Tariq and Musa bin Nusayr then conquered Spain. Shortly after the conquest of Morocco and Spain, the Berbers started insurgent activities. In Spain they were easily crushed, but their uprising in North Africa lingered on for longer period. Such a disturbing situation drew the attention of forces antagonistic (vijandig) to Islam towards this country.

We have already made mention of Imam Muhammad bin Abdullah and his family while dealing with the Abbasid dynasty and how they were ruined in Makkah. A member of the same family named Idris reached Morocco along with his servant. He settled in Prolila whose chief Abdul Hameed greeted him honorably. Gradually Idris become popular among Zawagha, Lawata, Zanata, Sadrota, Meknes and the Ghanaza clans of the Berbers. With the efforts of Ishaq bin Muhammad bin Abdul Hameed most of the Muslim clans among the Berbers took the oath of allegiance to Idris's Caliphate. In a very short period Idris built a strong army and waged Jihad on those Berber clans, which still were outside the circle of Islam. After subduing them he managed to teach them Islam and Idris became their Caliph or Sultan.

Idris attacked Tlemcen and the Governor of the province expressed his loyalty to him. Idris made it his capital and built a mosque there. He strengthened his military power very rapidly. His quick progress and expanding area of power and influence made Caliph Harun Rashid anxious. However, he sent his slave Sulaiman bin Jarir to do away with Idris. Sulaiman appeared before Idris as an opponent of Harun Rashid. Idris believed him and eulogized (roemde) him among his courtiers (hovelingen).

Sulaiman gave Idris a kind of tooth powder, which choked him to death and Sulaiman escaped safely.

Soon after the death of Idris his slave Rashid brought to the notice of the people that a Berber salve-girl named Kanzah was pregnant by Idris and they should, therefore, make the oath of allegiance to the child after its birth. In this way, Rashid was able to keep intact the country ruled by Idris. The Berber slave-girl gave birth to a male child. Rashid asked the people to take ba'it at the hand of the child and the people did accordingly. They made ba'it when he was weaned and once again when he was a boy of twelve. The same year ibn Aghlab, the Governor of Africa incited the Berbers against Rashid and he was killed. However, this did not break the ba'it. The boy was also named Idris and came to be known as Idris the second or Idris Junior. After Rashid, abu Khalid bin Yazid bin Ilyas Abdi was appointed instructor.

Being aware of the art of statemanship Idris the second appointed Mus'ab bin Isa Azdi as his Minister. He then gradually expanded his territories and captured almost the whole of Morocco. Men in large numbers from Arabia, Spain, Africa, Egypt, Syria and other far off places came to Idris the second in search of peace and prosperity and added to the splendor and activity of the country. Idris shifted his capital from Prolila, a small town Fez where he laid the foundation of a new city, which flourished very quickly. After initial conflicts with the Berbers Idris succeeded in dominating every tribe and Morocco became a country wholly and solely ruled by Idris the second, independant of the Abbasid Caliphate.

Idris the second or Junior died in 213 AH. and was succeeded by his son Muhammad. It so happened about the same time that Sulaiman bin Abdullah bin Hasan bin Muthana bin Hasan bin Ali bin abi Talib, the full brother of Idris, reached Tlemcen via Egypt and Africa. The Berbers took the oath of allegiance, at his hand he was able to found his rule in Tlemcen.

Kanzah, the mother of Idris the second and the grandmother of Muhammad bin Idris put forward a suggestion that Muhammad alone should not rule the entire country and his brothers should also be given various parts of the country to set up their independent rule. Her proposal was accepted. Accordingly, Muhammad was given Fez and its surrounding areas while among his brothers, Qasim got Tingis (Tanger), Sayut received Tetawin (Tetouan) and Umar was given Tabkisyan, Targha and the rule of Dahajah and Ghamrah tribes. Daud received Hamarah, Matalsol, Tazi, Meknes and Gheyatha tribes. Abdullah got Baghwat, Nafis, Jibal, Madamdah, Lamata, Saus, al-Aqsa. Yahya got Basila, Ara'ish, Darogha and Isa was given Shala, Sala, Azmur and Tamasna and Hamza got Walila and its outskirts. Those who were still young boys were put under the care of their grandmother, Kanzah. Tlemcen was already captured by Sulaiman bin Abdullah. Thus, the mighty Empire of Morocco was cut into pieces by acting upon the suggestion of a woman. After a short time Isa of Azmor attacked his brother Muhammad bin Idris. Muhammad asked his brother Qasim to help in the fight but he refused to obey. Hen then sent Umar to face Isa and the former defeated the latter and attacked the occupied territories. Muhammad then asked Umar to punish Qasim who had defied his order.

Umar attacked Qasim and Qasim was defeated after a bloody encounter. Qasim passed the rest of his life in seclusion, practicing piety and purity of life. Umar attacked the territory of Qasim and thus added to his strength and power yet he remained loyal to his brother, Muhammad. When Umar died in 220 AH Muhammad made his son Ali bin Umar his father's successor.

Seven months after the death of Umar, Muhammad bin Idris also died in 221 AH. He had appointed his 9 year old son, Ali as his successor and crown prince before his dead.

After Muhammad the courtiers and the powerful section of the society were pleased to pledge their support to Ali bin Muhammad. He set himself to rule his country properly. He kept peace throughout his thirteen-year rule. He died in 234 AH and appointed his brother Yahya bin Muhammad as his successor at the time of his death.

Yahya bin Muhammad added much to the power and splendor of his rule. During his tenure the Idris Caliphate came to be counted among the most magnificent states in the world. The population of Fez flourished, trade reached its peak and religious scholars and intellectuals came to join his court.
Blablablablabla..... Kijk hoeveel aandacht de arabische geschiedenis in Marokko krijgt. Als of pas toen het leven daar begon. In de eerste alinea vat hij in een paar zinnetjes de amazigh geschiedenis van 3 duizend jaar op als of het niets is. Nee het leven is pas begonnen toen de arabieren kwamen. Hij weet niks over Juba niks over Massinissa niks over Yugarta. Nee het leven is pas begonnen toen de arabieren kwamen. Reporter houdt alsjeblieft op met zulke teksten te posten van eikels die alles van een pan-arabische invalshoek zien.

The_Rep0rter

Citaat van: allasian op 21/07/2005 om 17:54:45
Citaat van: The_Rep0rter op 18/07/2005 om 20:48:45
Some historians are of the opinion that the progeny of Ibrahim, 'alayhi sallam, Bani Israel settled in Morocco. Roman and Greek dynasties also ruled these terrirtories. The world-renowned Carthage belonged to North Africa. The Goths had also taken Morocco by a storm as they did in Iberia (Spain). The Berbers inhabited Morocco and its adjoining eastern territories and were formed, in fact, from the totality of the Arabs, Syrians, Egyptians, Greeks, Persians and Romans. Territorial conditions and climatic influences carved them out as a people distinct from all others in respect of taste, temperament and disposition made them inclined to harshness, cruelty and barbarity and they remained so until they embraced Islam.
The struggle continued, Je moet niet denken dat na de omarming van de Islam alles rozengeur en manenschijn werd. Meneer de Reporter wie heeft deze tekst geschreven ? 
CiteerWhenever they forgot their Islamic discipline their old sense of enmity, rivalry and feuds rose again.
Did the arabs remebered their Islamic discipline? especialy the qonquerors
Citeer
Morocco was conquered by Uqba bin Nafe. Even though it revolted against the Muslim rule eacht time it was subdued. Musa bin Nusayr, Governor of Africa and Morocco had entrusted the rule of Morocco to Tariq bin Ziyad. Tariq and Musa bin Nusayr then conquered Spain. Shortly after the conquest of Morocco and Spain, the Berbers started insurgent activities. In Spain they were easily crushed, but their uprising in North Africa lingered on for longer period. Such a disturbing situation drew the attention of forces antagonistic (vijandig) to Islam towards this country.

We have already made mention of Imam Muhammad bin Abdullah and his family while dealing with the Abbasid dynasty and how they were ruined in Makkah. A member of the same family named Idris reached Morocco along with his servant. He settled in Prolila whose chief Abdul Hameed greeted him honorably. Gradually Idris become popular among Zawagha, Lawata, Zanata, Sadrota, Meknes and the Ghanaza clans of the Berbers. With the efforts of Ishaq bin Muhammad bin Abdul Hameed most of the Muslim clans among the Berbers took the oath of allegiance to Idris's Caliphate. In a very short period Idris built a strong army and waged Jihad on those Berber clans, which still were outside the circle of Islam. After subduing them he managed to teach them Islam and Idris became their Caliph or Sultan.

Idris attacked Tlemcen and the Governor of the province expressed his loyalty to him. Idris made it his capital and built a mosque there. He strengthened his military power very rapidly. His quick progress and expanding area of power and influence made Caliph Harun Rashid anxious. However, he sent his slave Sulaiman bin Jarir to do away with Idris. Sulaiman appeared before Idris as an opponent of Harun Rashid. Idris believed him and eulogized (roemde) him among his courtiers (hovelingen).

Sulaiman gave Idris a kind of tooth powder, which choked him to death and Sulaiman escaped safely.

Soon after the death of Idris his slave Rashid brought to the notice of the people that a Berber salve-girl named Kanzah was pregnant by Idris and they should, therefore, make the oath of allegiance to the child after its birth. In this way, Rashid was able to keep intact the country ruled by Idris. The Berber slave-girl gave birth to a male child. Rashid asked the people to take ba'it at the hand of the child and the people did accordingly. They made ba'it when he was weaned and once again when he was a boy of twelve. The same year ibn Aghlab, the Governor of Africa incited the Berbers against Rashid and he was killed. However, this did not break the ba'it. The boy was also named Idris and came to be known as Idris the second or Idris Junior. After Rashid, abu Khalid bin Yazid bin Ilyas Abdi was appointed instructor.

Being aware of the art of statemanship Idris the second appointed Mus'ab bin Isa Azdi as his Minister. He then gradually expanded his territories and captured almost the whole of Morocco. Men in large numbers from Arabia, Spain, Africa, Egypt, Syria and other far off places came to Idris the second in search of peace and prosperity and added to the splendor and activity of the country. Idris shifted his capital from Prolila, a small town Fez where he laid the foundation of a new city, which flourished very quickly. After initial conflicts with the Berbers Idris succeeded in dominating every tribe and Morocco became a country wholly and solely ruled by Idris the second, independant of the Abbasid Caliphate.

Idris the second or Junior died in 213 AH. and was succeeded by his son Muhammad. It so happened about the same time that Sulaiman bin Abdullah bin Hasan bin Muthana bin Hasan bin Ali bin abi Talib, the full brother of Idris, reached Tlemcen via Egypt and Africa. The Berbers took the oath of allegiance, at his hand he was able to found his rule in Tlemcen.

Kanzah, the mother of Idris the second and the grandmother of Muhammad bin Idris put forward a suggestion that Muhammad alone should not rule the entire country and his brothers should also be given various parts of the country to set up their independent rule. Her proposal was accepted. Accordingly, Muhammad was given Fez and its surrounding areas while among his brothers, Qasim got Tingis (Tanger), Sayut received Tetawin (Tetouan) and Umar was given Tabkisyan, Targha and the rule of Dahajah and Ghamrah tribes. Daud received Hamarah, Matalsol, Tazi, Meknes and Gheyatha tribes. Abdullah got Baghwat, Nafis, Jibal, Madamdah, Lamata, Saus, al-Aqsa. Yahya got Basila, Ara'ish, Darogha and Isa was given Shala, Sala, Azmur and Tamasna and Hamza got Walila and its outskirts. Those who were still young boys were put under the care of their grandmother, Kanzah. Tlemcen was already captured by Sulaiman bin Abdullah. Thus, the mighty Empire of Morocco was cut into pieces by acting upon the suggestion of a woman. After a short time Isa of Azmor attacked his brother Muhammad bin Idris. Muhammad asked his brother Qasim to help in the fight but he refused to obey. Hen then sent Umar to face Isa and the former defeated the latter and attacked the occupied territories. Muhammad then asked Umar to punish Qasim who had defied his order.

Umar attacked Qasim and Qasim was defeated after a bloody encounter. Qasim passed the rest of his life in seclusion, practicing piety and purity of life. Umar attacked the territory of Qasim and thus added to his strength and power yet he remained loyal to his brother, Muhammad. When Umar died in 220 AH Muhammad made his son Ali bin Umar his father's successor.

Seven months after the death of Umar, Muhammad bin Idris also died in 221 AH. He had appointed his 9 year old son, Ali as his successor and crown prince before his dead.

After Muhammad the courtiers and the powerful section of the society were pleased to pledge their support to Ali bin Muhammad. He set himself to rule his country properly. He kept peace throughout his thirteen-year rule. He died in 234 AH and appointed his brother Yahya bin Muhammad as his successor at the time of his death.

Yahya bin Muhammad added much to the power and splendor of his rule. During his tenure the Idris Caliphate came to be counted among the most magnificent states in the world. The population of Fez flourished, trade reached its peak and religious scholars and intellectuals came to join his court.
Blablablablabla..... Kijk hoeveel aandacht de arabische geschiedenis in Marokko krijgt. Als of pas toen het leven daar begon. In de eerste alinea vat hij in een paar zinnetjes de amazigh geschiedenis van 3 duizend jaar op als of het niets is. Nee het leven is pas begonnen toen de arabieren kwamen. Hij weet niks over Juba niks over Massinissa niks over Yugarta. Nee het leven is pas begonnen toen de arabieren kwamen. Reporter houdt alsjeblieft op met zulke teksten te posten van eikels die alles van een pan-arabische invalshoek zien.

Deze tekst is gebasseerd op werken bekende geschiedkundigen, zoals: Tabari, ibn Athir, Mas'udi, Abul-Fida', ibn Khaldun, Suyuti.

En het doel is niet om het als rozen, kleur en mannenschijn neer te zetten. Het gaat om de feiten, of dat ze nu mooi zijn of niet.

Dit is overigens maar een klein gedeelte, maar ik vond het, het wel waard om het over te tikken.

Samariaan

Citaat van: The_Rep0rter op 21/07/2005 om 11:58:41
Citaat van: MohamedUK op 18/07/2005 om 23:11:34
Vertaling aub.

Het zou goed zijn als iemand dit kan vertalen, ik kan door omstandigheden helaas niet.

begrijp je t zelf wel dan? waarom heb je t trouwens wel kunnen overtikken, maar niet gelijk kunnen vertalen, kost netzoveel tijd.

Laysa

Citaat van: MohamedUK op 21/07/2005 om 19:31:17
Citaat van: The_Rep0rter op 21/07/2005 om 11:58:41
Citaat van: MohamedUK op 18/07/2005 om 23:11:34
Vertaling aub.

Het zou goed zijn als iemand dit kan vertalen, ik kan door omstandigheden helaas niet.

begrijp je t zelf wel dan? waarom heb je t trouwens wel kunnen overtikken, maar niet gelijk kunnen vertalen, kost netzoveel tijd.

Overtikken of copy-paste ....

Ik zelf denk het laatste .... >:(

Samariaan

Citaat van: Laysa op 22/07/2005 om 00:12:08

Overtikken of copy-paste ....

Ik zelf denk het laatste .... >:(

Citaat van: The_Rep0rter op 21/07/2005 om 19:03:58

Dit is overigens maar een klein gedeelte, maar ik vond het, het wel waard om het over te tikken .


kan misschien wel een intressant stuk zijn, maar als de moeite niet wordt genomen om te vertalen hebben er niet veel mesen wat aan.

allasian

#14
Interessant voor mensen die geinteresseerd zijn in de arabische geschiedenis van Marokko. Dus de periode na 700 AD. Leuk voor Marokko.nl
En meneer de Reporter dit wordt ons niet onthouden dit wordt ons al vanaf onze kindertijd als pop-ups aangeboden. Voor amazigh geschiedenis moesten we zelf opzoek.  En beweer alsjeblieft niet dat het alleen maar feiten zijn vooral in de 1e en 2e alinea is duidelijk te zien dat de schrijver een bepaalde kijk op zaken heeft.