Wat is dit, volgens jou?

[Camaron'N'IstIgliwa]

ait deren,

amaniar means dick in rifian language...

That word may be related to "menhir" according to a Moroccan archeologist.

Thanks Amcum, I widen my vocabulary. :)

What you say is interesting here, because this kind of construction is usually seen as a "phallic representation".

But back to the druid cultures of Britany, these megalithic constructions have other meanings.

0x8000ffff, we need more information if you can provide us with. Britany has three major kind of rock monument: menhir, dolmen, and cromlechs. Where "men" means "rock" in their language. 

I can't see in this text any mention of the word "amaniar" and its link with the widespread word "menhir" associated with the druids. ?

[Lezer]

Ik kan het herkennen, het een wikipedia-artikel :)
Je mag dit ook lezen:
"After the Battle of Irassa

The Greeks and the Libyans began to break their harmony in the period of the Battus II [25]. Battus II began secretly to invite other Greek groups to Libya. The Libyans considered that as a danger that has to be stopped. The Berbers began to fight against the Greeks, sometimes in alliance with the Egyptians and other times with the Carthagians. Nevertheless, the Greeks were the victors.

Some historians believe that the myth of Antaios was a reflection of those wars between the Libyans and Greeks[26]. The legend tells that he was the undefeatable protector of the Libyans. He was the son of the god Poseidon and Gaia. He was the husband of the Berber goddess Tinjis. He used to protect the lands of the Berbers until he was slain by the Greek hero Heracles who married Tingis and fathered the son Sufax (Berber-Greek son). Some Libyan kings, like Juba I, claimed to be the descendants of Sufax. While some sources described him as the king of Irassa, Plutarch reported that the Libyans buried Antaios in Tangier:

    In this city (Tangier) the Libyans say that Antaeus is buried; and Sertorius had his tomb dug open, the great size of which made him disbelieve the Barbarians...(Plutarch, The Parallel Lives)[27]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berber_mythology#After_the_Battle_of_Irassa

Over megalith (Mega => Reusachtig + lith => steen/rots):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berber_mythology#Megalithic_culture

Eerlijk gezegd, haat ik die afbeelding, het is een neppe

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You have to read arabic to find it, Ait Deren, because it is in another article. :D

[Lezer]

Het hele verhaal van Plutarchus:

"In this city the Libyans say that Antaeus is buried; and Sertorius had his tomb dug open, the great size of which made him disbelieve the Barbarians. But when he came upon the body and found it to be •sixty cubits long, as they tell us, he was dumbfounded,b and after performing a sacrifice filled up the tomb again, and joined in magnifying its traditions and honours. 4 Now, the people of Tingis have a myth that after the death of Antaeus, his wife, Tinga, consorted with Heracles, and that Sophax was the fruit of this union, who became king of the country and named a city which he founded after his mother; also that Sophax had a son, Diodorus, to whom many of the Libyan peoples became subject, since he had a Greek army composed of the Olbians and Mycenaeans who were settled in those parts by Heracles. 5 But this tale must be ascribed to a desire to gratify Juba, of all kings the most devoted to historical enquiry; for his ancestors are said to have been descendants of Sophax and Diodorus."
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Plutarch/Lives/Sertorius*.html#refA

[Hadou]

M'Zora.. Never been there. Thank you all for information.

a few sites in French ( 4 Amezwaru)
http://www.minculture.gov.ma/fr/Tertre%20de%20Mzora.htm
http://tangier.free.fr/Histoire/fprehisto.html 

[Lezer]

Here is the article in Arabic, Ait Deren:
http://tawalt.com/archive/amazigh_rockes_a3shi.gif

[Camaron'N'IstIgliwa]

You have to read arabic to find it, Ait Deren, because it is in another article. :D

I would like to know furthermore on that question: with accuracy, are there any relevant information on the link between britan "menhir" and "amaniar". That is my only question.

I don't question the both historical and archeological texts you had quoted; I just want to know more on that lexical assumption from a moroccan archeologist you had mentioned.

Be careful with arabic stuffs mate. They said once that Shakespeare was in fact called Cheikh Zubir wahaha ... :D Seriously, how come such a matter of vocabulary could be only published in arabic?

I will though try to dig the question.

[Lezer]

He likes interpretting the words, it is his personal interpretations!

[Hadou]

Hahaha Cheikh Zubair ;D
Amenyar becomes amenhir becomes mijnheer in dutch ;D
mijnheer = sir , mister, my lord ( mijn heer).

[Camaron'N'IstIgliwa]

M'Zora.. Never been there. Thank you all for information.

a few sites in French ( 4 Amezwaru)
http://www.minculture.gov.ma/fr/Tertre%20de%20Mzora.htm
http://tangier.free.fr/Histoire/fprehisto.html 

Thanks a Hadou, I'll gather these websites so I can transmit them in other websites.
Thanks also to 0x8000ffff, for the topic and all the links submitted.

[Hadou]

you r welcome..
please let us know what is written there. If it is important! ( i am tired and lazy to read it in francais).

[Camaron'N'IstIgliwa]

He likes interpretting the words, it is his personal interpretations!

Yes, but afterwards, it's an assumption, a science assumption: so it needs to be either confirmed or infirmed, isn't it?

Hahaha Cheikh Zubair ;D
Amenyar becomes amenhir becomes mijnheer in dutch ;D
mijnheer = sir , mister, my lord ( mijn heer).

;D Hadou, it's true man, Kadafi said Shakespeare was called Cheikh Zubir, and also once, I've read that an Amerindian tribe, the "Algonquins" (in french) were of arab ascendance...Wherever they see "ar" or "al", it belongs to them.

[Lezer]

Yes, but afterwards, it's an assumption, a science assumption: so it needs to be either confirmed or infirmed, isn't it?

It is inconfirmed.

[Lezer]

Ik heb een idee. AmazighTv zou daar een reportage over moeten maken.

[Hadou]

Amezwaru:
Qaddafi is also an amazigh from his origin. HE admitted it once. But he refuse to behave as an Amazigh. He prefer to be an arab.

( offtopic !let us forget this.) ;)

[Camaron'N'IstIgliwa]

http://tangier.free.fr/Histoire/fprehisto.html 

From this link, they say something related to our statements before.

- M'zora (près de Lithnine Sidi El Yamani) : un monument funéraire mégalithique de petite taille souvent décrit comme un Cromlec'h mais qui a bien été cité par le Docteur Habibi (Conservateur du Musée Archéologique de Tanger) comme un reste de Dolmen.

- M'zora (next to Lithnine sidi El Yamani): a small-sized funerary megalithic monument often described as a Cromlech, but which has been quoted by the Dr Habibi (conservateur Archeological museum of Tangier) as the remaining of a Dolmen.

But back to the druid cultures of Britany, these megalithic constructions have other meanings.

0x8000ffff, we need more information if you can provide us with. Britany has three major kind of rock monument: menhir, dolmen, and cromlechs. Where "men" means "rock" in their language.