Auteur Topic: New Facebook Group "Waryaghar"  (gelezen 6773 keer)

« Gepost op: 16/06/2012 om 20:56:40 »
Asalaamu 'alaykum,

This group is to share thoughts, ideas and history specifically related to the Aith Waryaghar.

What are our roots, who are we and where do we come from.

Lets make this a source of information to us all. Note that this group is a -men only- group.

Thank you.

Wa salaam

Group link: http://www.facebook.com/groups/374182372637183/

« Reactie #1 Gepost op: 17/06/2012 om 18:28:32 »


Wa salaam
« Laatst bewerkt op: 04/01/2014 om 08:11:20 door The_Rep0rter »

« Reactie #2 Gepost op: 09/08/2012 om 12:41:18 »
Asalaamu 'alaykum,

Note that this group is a -men only- group.

Thank you.

Wa salaam

Group link: http://www.facebook.com/groups/374182372637183/

Azul

Why this men-only (?),is this a gay Ayth-Waryagher group?


Ad wenni nta

« Reactie #3 Gepost op: 20/08/2012 om 18:07:42 »
Azul

Why this men-only (?),is this a gay Ayth-Waryagher group?


Ad wenni nta
You are welcome to ask this question, and there can be many answers to it, but I will leave the answer to the specialists in this topic and here is one answer in defense of not mixing between sexes:

4ـ اختلاط النساء بالرجال فإن المرأة إذا رأت نفسها مساوية للرجلفي كشف الوجه والتجول سافرة لم يحصل منها حياءٌ ولا خجل من مزاحمة الرجال ، وفي ذلكفتنة كبيرة وفساد عريض ، فقد أخرج الترمذي (5272) عَنْ حَمْزَةَ بْنِ أَبِيأُسَيْدٍ الأَنْصَارِيِّ عَنْ أَبِيهِ أَنَّهُ سَمِعَ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صَلَّىاللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يَقُولُ وَهُوَ خَارِجٌ مِنْ الْمَسْجِدِ فَاخْتَلَطَالرِّجَالُ مَعَ النِّسَاءِ فِي الطَّرِيقِ فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُعَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ لِلنِّسَاءِ اسْتَأْخِرْنَ فَإِنَّهُ لَيْسَ لَكُنَّ أَنْتَحْقُقْنَ الطَّرِيقَ ، عَلَيْكُنَّ بِحَافَّاتِ الطَّرِيقِ . فَكَانَتْالْمَرْأَةُ تَلْتَصِقُ بِالْجِدَارِ حَتَّى إِنَّ ثَوْبَهَا لَيَتَعَلَّقُبِالْجِدَارِ مِنْ لُصُوقِهَا بِهِ" حسنه الألباني في صحيح الجامع ( 929)

Source: http://h-d.01.ma/19937.htm

Wa salaam

« Reactie #4 Gepost op: 22/08/2012 om 16:47:54 »
You are welcome to ask this question, and there can be many answers to it, but I will leave the answer to the specialists in this topic and here is one answer in defense of not mixing between sexes:

4ـ اختلاط النساء بالرجال فإن المرأة إذا رأت نفسها مساوية للرجلفي كشف الوجه والتجول سافرة لم يحصل منها حياءٌ ولا خجل من مزاحمة الرجال ، وفي ذلكفتنة كبيرة وفساد عريض ، فقد أخرج الترمذي (5272) عَنْ حَمْزَةَ بْنِ أَبِيأُسَيْدٍ الأَنْصَارِيِّ عَنْ أَبِيهِ أَنَّهُ سَمِعَ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صَلَّىاللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يَقُولُ وَهُوَ خَارِجٌ مِنْ الْمَسْجِدِ فَاخْتَلَطَالرِّجَالُ مَعَ النِّسَاءِ فِي الطَّرِيقِ فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُعَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ لِلنِّسَاءِ اسْتَأْخِرْنَ فَإِنَّهُ لَيْسَ لَكُنَّ أَنْتَحْقُقْنَ الطَّرِيقَ ، عَلَيْكُنَّ بِحَافَّاتِ الطَّرِيقِ . فَكَانَتْالْمَرْأَةُ تَلْتَصِقُ بِالْجِدَارِ حَتَّى إِنَّ ثَوْبَهَا لَيَتَعَلَّقُبِالْجِدَارِ مِنْ لُصُوقِهَا بِهِ" حسنه الألباني في صحيح الجامع ( 929)

Source: http://h-d.01.ma/19937.htm

Wa salaam

Azul

Thank you indeed for allowing me to ask a question on a forum,and will you excuse me for contradicting you. My question cannot be answered in 'many ways'. You could have replied with a yes or a no,but you chose a void answer instead.

Was being associated with homosexuals in essence why you tried to avoid a (painful) question,given your religion?


PS: If there wouldn't be any mixing of sexes,humanity (and many other species) wouldn't exist.


Ad wenni nta

 
 




« Laatst bewerkt op: 22/08/2012 om 16:58:38 door The One »

« Reactie #5 Gepost op: 23/08/2012 om 22:29:36 »
This is the mixing that is allowed or not allowed by Allaahu Ta'ala:

4:22. And marry not women whom your fathers married, except what has already passed; indeed it was shameful and most hateful, and an evil way.

     4:23. Forbidden to you (for marriage) are: your mothers, your daughters, your sisters, your father’s sisters, your mother’s sisters, your brother’s daughters, your sister’s daughters, your foster mother who gave you suck, your foster milk suckling sisters, your wives’ mothers, your step daughters under your guardianship, born of your wives to whom you have gone in - but there is no sin on you if you have not gone in them (to marry their daughters), - the wives of your sons who (spring) from your own loins, and two sisters in wedlock at the same time, except for what has already passed; verily, Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

Source: http://www.qurancomplex.com/Quran/Targama/Targama.asp?nSora=4&l=eng&nAya=22#4_22

24:31. And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent (like both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer palms of hands or one eye or dress like veil, gloves, head-cover, apron, etc.), and to draw their veils all over Juyûbihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms) and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands, or their fathers, or their husband’s fathers, or their sons, or their husband’s sons, or their brothers or their brother’s sons, or their sister’s sons, or their (Muslim) women (i.e. their sisters in Islâm), or the (female) slaves whom their right hands possess, or old male servants who lack vigour, or small children who have no sense of feminine sex. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And all of you beg Allâh to forgive you all, O believers, that you may be successful.[1]

Source: http://www.qurancomplex.com/Quran/Targama/Targama.asp?nSora=24&l=eng&nAya=31#24_31

« Reactie #6 Gepost op: 24/08/2012 om 15:24:37 »
I was rather interested in the Awaryagher in you,your personal opinion.But you strike me as a thoroughly arabised/islamised convert,not able to think or reason without 'help' from the Book.

The 'mixing' aforementioned by you was an arabic cultural/tribal custom in the era of Jahiliya,long before your God gave his consent or refused a relationship.

It's also mentioned in Leviticus 18,one thousand years before the last 'Revelation' to once again some shepherd in the desert.

You use thousand years old religious laws or customs to exclude women from taking part in discussions on a bulletin-board (without any physical contact) about tribal history and customs etc.


Did your God forbid women to have a chat with men on a facebook site?




Meniss chek? Nesh zeg Ayth-Ayache.





 







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