Ma kenniw dh imaghrabiyen nigh dh Irifiyen ?

[arriset]

Azul,

Attas n ttwarathen ttafegh gi forum "amazigh.nl" iwden ttarren ixf-nsen dh imaghrabiyen !

Maca xli iwdhen gi dafa3en x Tamazight nigh x Arrif, ttaren ixf-nsen zeg regnus marokkaanse.


Mux-as adh ssen iwdhen n hollanda, tsema kenniw dh Imazighen ?

Maghar ttbedarem isem n tmurt n wem ? Arrif dh Arrif, udji shamal n maghrib!


Al Mamlakat al-Maghrebiya (koninkrijk marokko) = I3raben

Republik n Arrif = Imazighen


PS: Arrem awal s Tmazight

[Hadou]

Nec dh a Marok. Mis Imarak. D Arifi , mis Irifiyen.
Arif dh ij n taf zi Marok.
Marok zdhghnt Imazighen, Ifriqiyen, Ifniqiyen dh marka neghni.
Marra Imarak tors sen dhi tamurt n Marok.
Wa dhin ni bu rfaz jara nex.

[arriset]

Gi Arrif, amaruk ttqarentt i ughyul, shekk dh aghyul ?

Nesh snegh ijen duwra qqaranes maghrib, amya i tssema ikhf-ness.

Duwer-ni sta3ma kh arrif, dh ngha attas irifiyen, suffeghin-ten zeg tmurt nsen, rukha Arrif ittmendar !

Mara amen tawsma arid ikhf nekk dh aghabi, ammen nigh la ?


PS : Ifniqiyen ??? takk i sebsi ;-)

[Hadou]

Gi Arrif, amaruk ttqarentt i ughyul, shekk dh aghyul ?

3emmas wa tesrid x ( aw7end Imarak ( s7aab l kharij)?
Mana aghyur a .. a Taxna! Qa ranec zi Arif.  Aghyur d dabeth. Amarok d ism.

Nesh snegh ijen duwra qqaranes maghrib, amya i tssema ikhf-ness.

Al Maghrib s t a3rabt. Marok s tamazight n ida.

Duwer-ni sta3ma kh arrif, dh ngha attas irifiyen, suffeghin-ten zeg tmurt nsen, rukha Arrif ittmendar ! 

A man isti3mar a?? Arif i mun aked ineghni. Uca carcen souq, d ibriden. Arif d Arif. 3aad 7sen zi inneghni.

[amen tsma arid ikhf nekk dh aghabi, ammen nigh la ?

Nec wadji  d agharbi. Wa ghari bu can acarci ki d sen. Ma ca twa7saben Di Marak  ra nihni.

PS : Ifniqiyen ??? takk i sebsi ;-)

Ghar cwayt x Amzruy n Marok. Azur x Tingis, Mogador, Agadir, .. Rusadir.

[arriset]

3emmas wa tesrid x ( aw7end Imarak ( s7aab l kharij)?
Mana aghyur a .. a Taxna! Qa ranec zi Arif.  Aghyur d dabeth. Amarok d ism.

A ya j3ifet, 100 gi 100 shek dh ashekem n wa3raban nigh miss ushekem !

Idhar deg-k udji dh Arrifi, ataf djid dh Arrifi, ataf dhsennedh qqa awal-a sqaro3en zeg-as gi Arrif.

Amaruk ttqqarentt i ughyur, y ijen war yssen sha qa3. Tha war gharek min gha dhinnidh.

Al Maghrib s t a3rabt. Marok s tamazight n ida.

shh'el zeg ishtuh'en dh taghuri, na3ma sidi, inek "amaruk" ikkid s Tmazight !

Aya moh', udji h'ad gi Tamazgha marra igi qqaren awar-a.

"Amaruk" ikkid zeg uspanyu, sfaydhent zeg isem n tandint "marakuc/marakuy/marakuk". Zeg senni izwad ufransis. Akhmini afransis ista3mar gzayer, awar-a yudhef gi ires n igzariyen. Irrifiyen ira itehajar ghar gzayer, iksid awar-a zeg ghar-sen, isqor3it mizi "amaruk" marra nsenith gi Arrif iwdhan-a dh ighyal

3awed marra ammeni, arr ikhf nek dh "afasi" mizi iturkiyen tsemen tamurt-a "Fas"!!

Neshnin Irrifiyen, tmuqqer ghar rejdud negh. Imezgura jjinegh-d 2 "identiteit" tsemmen : Arrifi dh Amazigh.


Nigh-ak g umzwaru takk i sebsi, mizi arbi3-a dh amshum.

A man isti3mar a?? Arif i mun aked ineghni. Uca carcen souq, d ibriden. Arif d Arif. 3aad 7sen zi inneghni.

Tffu dag-k, iwdhen gi Tmassint tmenddaren gi uqidhun, shek thqqaredh h'sen zeg inneghni ! Iqizen n imeghrabiyen nghin ktar 10 000 Irrifyen, 3ad tharnudh zeg sen, ikh !

Arrif ira idja duwer zegwani ydja (zeg imarat Nkur ar Republik n Arrif), zeg 1926 Arrif ista3mar !

A mukh inna Amghar Moh'and, mima idder Urrifi ad yfeker gi tirelli ines, abrid-a usa nteffegh.

Nec wadji  d agharbi. Wa ghari bu can acarci ki d sen. Ma ca twa7saben Di Marak  ra nihni.

Immi thshtah'edh ? shek igi nnen, nesh dh amoghrabi. Manis d ikka awar "moghrib", aya djudju ?

moh'amed > h'med (clementie)
mo3alim > 3lem (leren) ...etc

A yeh, moghrib > gharb (west). Ammeni ad nini s Tmazight ijen itassed zeg gharb dh "agharbi" nigh s ta3rab "amoghrabi".

Ghar cwayt x Amzruy n Marok. Azur x Tingis, Mogador, Agadir, .. Rusadir.

A dh nesh ish gha isghuren g umzruy, a ya maruk ! Ifniqiyen udji ira zedghen dhenni, ira tekken dh abrid waha. teggen tamenzuyt ag Imazighen, war udhfen sha adhixer n tamurt, ira tghimen x rmujet waha.


Angaru :
amoghrabi = a3rab
arrifi = amazigh
Tuddert Republik n Arrif, tamettant i moghrib !

[Chatt zie arif]

Ewa a 3adou? Itt tellafish Uzop kriminaris!


Wii chek a Uzop,mennist kaassadh?


Chatt ewass zie d-IZI,jemmas zie Aith-BOUKIADAN>Aith-Bouayach>Aith-waryagher>Imazighan zie siennie tsawant ou sinegh lmalla walla jadara!

Thalla.

[Debouz]

Azul marra,

Hadou,
wzan, fezz, meyaz  awwar nec mli7 aka uzop ijjen u dharras  
ghars min gha yinni.
Merra dhazurt aci weddar u brid uca anni i qiss di thmazight.


far7ax attas a thawmat uzop umi tussid ghar negh da nitta
T terrax zayek a tekimad rewda a t tcijit( un petit coucou) ghannex dhi amazigh.nl

Hij is iemand die ik al een tijdje op een ander amazigh forum ontmoet.
Deze kerel is een wandelende bib wat betreft amazigh kwestie.
hij doet me denken aan twee personen die hier actief waren een paar jaren geleden:
Mauri en Touzani.

[Hadou]

A ya j3ifet, 100 gi 100 shek dh ashekem n wa3raban nigh miss ushekem !

Awar wis thnayen.. iteb3ith : Acekam, aghyur, ( awaren i3efannen).
Mayemmi ammu?

Idhar deg-k udji dh Arrifi, ataf djid dh Arrifi, ataf dhsennedh qqa awal-a sqaro3en zeg-as gi Arrif.

nec d Arifi. Asl inu ghas 1000 isugassen zi Arif.
Arif imghar, u dji Aith Wayargel waha. mara th sneqrabed awalen. U dji icek  ghar itiq-qen.

Amaruk ttqqarentt i ughyur, y ijen war yssen sha qa3. Tha war gharek min gha dhinnidh.
shh'el zeg ishtuh'en dh taghuri, na3ma sidi, inek "amaruk" ikkid s Tmazight !

wa t3awad bu i awar a. Mara th xsed a tnaqced  aked ait-mac.
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Ayenni garek ?

Atinid ira qa th sa-qar-tid nith..
Mayn tesned x Fas , Maruk, Marakkecc,  Snexth zi mermi bra internet. ..
Nkur? Zi mermi themuth.

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A3raben wa dini djin dhi Marok. Yenni i sawaren Dari-ja. Wadji zi Saudi. Maca zi Lubnaan. qarnasen Ifniqiyen ( fenicia) .. Zimermi nihni zdghen Nord Afrique ( Tamazgha).+3000 isugassen.
Nec imri ufix anmun  aked Algerie, Tunis d libiya. , anmun marra. 
Arif autonomie. at sellek. mara nebdas zi rux. asnebda zi dsas.  maca s thirelli, d dimoqratiya. udji s refhamath am thenni gharek.

PS : mayemi thgid tamsrqat (foto) n M6?

[Hadou]

Azul marra,

Hadou,
wzan, fezz, meyaz  awwar nec mli7 aka uzop ijjen u dharras  
ghars min gha yinni..

Waghares man ghar yi ni A Debouz.
Wenni i ssawaren s : Aghyur, Accekkam, .. dayes afeqqus di ur nnes. ( pshycho)

[Hadou]

Ewa a 3adou? Itt tellafish Uzop kriminaris!

]
a man gha yetlef.. aith wayarghel amenni gin.
imri ghars man ghayini , imri isiwer s ruzen. s l adab.

[arriset]

Wii chek a Uzop,mennist kaassadh?

Nech qarsegh-dh zeg Arrif, zeg taqbicht n Ait Waryaghel, dchar n Tmassint.

far7ax attas a thawmat uzop umi tussid ghar negh da nitta
T terrax zayek a tekimad rewda a t tcijit( un petit coucou) ghannex dhi amazigh.nl

marra ikhes Akuc adh nsija marra marra, adh nuwch ikharasen, adh mhawadh kh tussna n thmurth negh i3izen :-)

Awar wis thnayen.. iteb3ith : Acekam, aghyur, ( awaren i3efannen).
Mayemmi ammu?

A mukh nqqar s Tmazight : marra isesten uqzin suwjed akchud !

Dhukad-ay s uj wawar a3fan '"takhna", nech 3ammas war da-k inigh awar a3fan !

Nesh 3ajmagh-d khaf-k kh "amaruk" nqqarit i ughyul s Tmazight, rukh marra thared ikhf nek dh "amaruk", ewa twasma dh aghyul nigh asnus idji-d nichen.

Chek miya gi miya dh achekem idji-d, mizi ta3wedh di3awet n makhzen. Marra cha ijen iqqara-k iwawaren-a :
"A man isti3mar a?? Arif i mun aked ineghni. Uca carcen souq, d ibriden. Arif d Arif. 3aad 7sen zi inneghni."
ewa tha idhar ira khemed ghar-sen, awar "typisch" n ichkamen. 3ad ammen ambassadeur n moghrib gi belgik isufegh deqq-ni wawaren.

udji ira aqqa-ch dha gi tilivision n wa3raben (rtm, 2m...), di3awet nwem marra nsen-ith a ya djudju.

wa t3awad bu i awar a. Mara th xsed a tnaqced  aked ait-mac.

Aithma, Suaithma winin igi dafa3en kh tamurt n sen, udji ighdaren nigh imoghrabiyen.

Arrifi amezdhag issen min ya3na, manis dikka, abrid igha idhfer !

Abridh negh, dh wen ig nijja win-zik s idammen ines : Republik n Arrif !

Ayenni garek ?

Atinid ira qa th sa-qar-tid nith..
Mayn tesned x Fas , Maruk, Marakkecc,  Snexth zi mermi bra internet. ..
Nkur? Zi mermi themuth.

War thufidh min gha tinnidh ma, aya fassi nigh aya maruk nigh aya aghrabi ?? (gharek attas "naam", nechnin tegg Irrifiyen waha ;-) )

Tinawin tangarut ithennidh idhar ira udji-dh dh arrifi !

In this period the capital of the Rif was the city of Nekor, today disappear, that was located in the mouth of the river of equal name. Nekor lodged the first Moroccan dynasty, because ibn Mansur to the Himyari was founded the 726 by the Sahid Yemeni, that proclaimed its independence before the barguatas or the idrisíes. The city and its port underwent the sacking of the normandos pirates, omeyas andalusíes and finally of almorávides that destroyed it in 1084.
http://www.amazigh.nl/awar/index.php?topic=11489.0

Ewa dh a3qer-dh kh-as ?

A3raben wa dini djin dhi Marok. Yenni i sawaren Dari-ja. Wadji zi Saudi. Maca zi Lubnaan. qarnasen Ifniqiyen ( fenicia) .. Zimermi nihni zdghen Nord Afrique ( Tamazgha).+3000 isugassen.
Nec imri ufix anmun  aked Algerie, Tunis d libiya. , anmun marra.
Arif autonomie. at sellek. mara nebdas zi rux. asnebda zi dsas.  maca s thirelli, d dimoqratiya. udji s refhamath am thenni gharek.

nigh-ak g umzwaru takk i sebsi !

Marra darija ikkid zeg Tafniqit mer-anegh ijen amusnaw (3ilem) ig yurin kh manaya a bukhariqen.

Wami ussin wa3raben ghar Tamazgha, war ufin chi regnus itsawar chin tafniqit. Awar ira idjen dh Tmazight dh Tarumit waha. Tafniqit ira dh wedar.

Tafniqit-a suffeghen wa3raben h'uma adh aren ikhf-sen "aboriginal" n tamazgha, h'uma adh sta3maren tamurt n tamazgha. Siyasat n wem n sinith zeg taf ar taf ;-)

PS : mayemi thgid tamsrqat (foto) n M6?

maghar war dh-ak ta3jib ?

a man gha yetlef.. aith wayarghel amenni gin.
imri ghars man ghayini , imri isiwer s ruzen. s l adab.

A ya chek sennedh adab a ya djudju, Ait Waryaghel dh wenni ich gha isegmen ;-)

[Chatt zie arif]

A ya chek sennedh adab a ya djudju, Ait Waryaghel dh wenni ich gha isegmen ;-)

Ah Ya Uzop inou,mien you-xin dh-mazight inegh? Agazz iew-dhan sermedhendh ou djie chie sgementh,Aith-Waryager sgemmen isgmen:-) 

Waqa schwai 3adou negh,a drafat!


Thalla a woe-djouz inou.

[Hadou]

@ uzop;
a mayemmi theggid Photo n M6?

[arriset]

@ uzop;
a mayemmi theggid Photo n M6?

PS : mayemi thgid tamsrqat (foto) n M6?

maghar war dh-ak ta3jib ?

War dh-ak ta3jib "karikatuur" ino n m666


Aqa icten ndhan, git deg "profiel" inek ;-)


Ewa ichtih'en inek, ghar-ak cha attarnudh ?

[Hadou]

Ayhay !! ze3ma the7yittid..
nec tghirex gharek man ghathinid , zixenta azelif nec ixwa am aqcur n teghyact.