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#1021
In de media / Re: Pedofiele Arabieren!??!
18/10/2005 om 16:23:15
One minor girl, many Arabs

They are old predators with new vigour. Often bearded, invariably in flowing robes and expensive turbans. The rich, middle-aged Arabs increasingly stalk the deprived streets of Hyderabad like medieval monarchs would stalk their harems in days that we wrongly think are history. These Viagra enabled Arabs are perpetrating a blatant crime under the veneer of nikaah, the Islamic rules of marriage. Misusing the sanctioned provision which allows a Muslim man to have four wives at a time, many old Arabs are not just marrying minors in Hyderabad, but marrying more than one minor in a single sitting.

"The Arabs prefer teenage, virgin brides," says Jameela Nishat, who counsels and sensitises young women against the malaise. Two of her volunteers, Shahida Yasmeen and Tasneem Sultana, in their early twenties experienced the trauma of being scanned by an old Arab. A few months ago, they accompanied an undercover television reporter who was following these sham marriages. They reached a home where half a dozen other prospective brides were gathered. "It resembled a brothel. The girls were paraded before the Arab who would lift the girls’ burqa, run his fingers through their hair, gaze at their figures and converse through an interpreter," says Yasmeen recalling the day.

Most girls inspected by the Arab were minors, and forced by a complex union of their parents and Islamic clerics to yield to the preliminary probes of the Arab.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1219601.cms?headline=One~minor~girl
#1022
In de media / Pedofiele Arabieren!??!
18/10/2005 om 16:17:59

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Fly-by-night bridegrooms

The practice of minor Muslim girls being married off to rich and old Arab men continues. A look at dowry practices.


The long-winding narrow lanes in the desperately poor areas of Hyderabad; the dark, claustrophobic, one-room houses; the deadened souls and the emotionally-drained hearts know it all and yet won’t speak. In fact, they will deny it. Because, if they accept the truth, then they would be forced to confront the bitter truth: that their girl children are available for as little as Rs 5,000 to satisfy the lust of doddering old Arab men.



Sixteen-year-old Haseena who was married to a 75-year-old Arab, Jorani, for Rs 10,000 now forms a sordid chapter in the social history of Hyderabad. She made history when she ran away from him, traumatised. When her parents took her back after two days, Jorani refused to accept her and harassed the family to return his money (of the Rs 10,000 he paid, the broker had taken away Rs 5,000). Haseena lodged a police complaint and for the first time in the 30-odd years during which countless, short-term marriages of impoverished Muslim girls to rich old Arab men took place every other day, police booked a case, arrested Jorani who had married two girls in two weeks, and jailed him.

Terrified by the publicity, Haseena’s family fled the city and their angry neighbours chased away the media. Assistant Commissioner of Police A K Khan said last year they had picked up two Arabs, aged 80 and 67, for marrying girls for short terms, but could not proceed as the girls’ families refused to cooperate. Haseena’s complaint came as god-send. Police investigation revealed a well-oiled racket that was run by a “partnership” of religious leaders or qazis and a network of brokers, travel agents and hotels owners who look around, identify and convince parents of young girls. One of the three qazis identified as culprits by police, was even was running a “home” with “five-star” facilities to house the Arab men and their brides. “The community should step in a big way to deal with the issue,” said Mr Khan.

Dr Sunita Krishnan, who heads an anti human-trafficking NGO Prajwala, said the community refuses to accept that a large number of girls who marry “outside the country” end up in the red-light areas of Mumbai and Pune. Parents are gullible enough to marry off their daughters on phone, hand them the nikahnama, and send them off with the broker to start a new life “abroad”. A few months later, the parents get a cassette in which the girl says she is well and the parents rest happy that all is well.

Abbasi was 14 when she was married off. She was rescued from Kamatipura, Mumbai’s red-light area and subsequently rehabilitated by Prajwala. She recounts her story: “Someone abroad had a marriage proposal for me. The nikah was the phone. I said kubool (accept) on the phone. The next day I was sent off to Mumbai. After three days I was sent to wrong places… I told them I will not do what they say… they started beating and torturing me… I wanted to make a phone call but they did not allow me... They kept on beating me... I tried to run away but they caught me... There were many girls like me who were also tortured similarly by the sethanis (madams)…”

Prajwala began to investigate these marriages. Supported by the Confederation of Voluntary Agencies, a Hyderabad-based NGO that works with the Muslim community in several states, it brought out a study after examining 75 cases of “outside” marriages. Of these, as many as 40 families did not know for three years where or how their daughters were; 20 marriages lasted between three days and three months; only 15 had evidence such as photos, showing the girl living with her husband in a foreign country. These are the “culprits” who encourage a bahar ki shaadi. Activists believe a few thousand girls have “disappeared” after such marriages and the parents are too poor even to trace them.

Wretched poverty, the spread of the dowry system and increasing “commercialisation” of marriages in the Muslim community are some factors that have encouraged short-term contract marriages, says Gazanfar Ali Khan, assistant editor with the Urdu newspaper Rehnuma-e-Deccan. “A contract marriage has no sanctity in Islam. These are efforts to legitimise debauchery. I understand the newly married girl not only signs the nikah paper but also the divorce paper…this is haram (illegitimate) since there is no iddat period (40 days)... this is the worst possible exploitation of a Muslim girl,” he says. He believes qazis are the main culprits as they take advantage of a person’s poverty and commit a fraud rather than perform a marriage.

Sunita identifies yet another factor, that is the religious and social acceptance of talaq. Above all, Sunita says, the girl child is not valued. “If a girl child is sold or her life ruined, it is not a national loss, that’s why this is a non-issue, both for community and to society,” she says.

This culture of silence, which is the main reason for the perpetuation of the exploitation and abuse of the Muslim girl child (as in other communities) has to be stopped. Only community activism can be effective, she says.

MUMBAI: Mumbai has emerged as a big centre of this racket where old Arabs as well as people belonging to other nationalities, like Algerians and blacks, come for “some fun”. Mohammed Ali Road, Nagpada, Mahim and some other areas have many guest houses. Such alliances are backed a small group of unscrupulous Kazis and agents. In one place in the Nagpada area a kazi receives groups of people, mostly Arabs and Algerians who are very old. He prepares a nikahnama and talaqnama simultaneously, marrying the old Arab to the victim, who is always a minor. The fee is from Rs 10,000 to to Rs 1 lakh or more, depending on the girl’s beauty. The client then spends one or two nights with the girl and then goes away. The girl’s parents are paid half the amount and the balance is pocketed by the agents.

A leading Muslim social activist Shahajadi Hakim says: “The police can easily keep track of the movements of visiting foreigners, but they are not doing enough.” The involvement of mafia gangs in this racket are not ruled out.
Dowry is prevalent in Marathwada while in Mumbai, it is prevalent among UP Muslims.

LUCKNOW: Jamina Ahmed, a research scholar who is studying gloabalisation and social change among the Muslim community does not believe that only Muslim girls from the lower socio-economic strata are married off to affluent middle-aged men. “Even among the well-off you will see a preference for men who are affluent. The Middle East holds a special fascination. So the convergence of economics and religion becomes very potent. The trend is marked in those regions which have had a tradition of men going to the region to seek their fortunes.”

On why such cases are not so prevalent among Muslims in places like Lucknow, school principal Mrs Ayesha Khan, believes the community is tradition-bound.

R AKHILESHWARI

in Hyderabad

http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/jun202004/sl2.asp
#1025
Citaat van: Ariri op 18/10/2005 om 01:00:13
Citaat van: Idir op 18/10/2005 om 00:57:17
Citaat van: Ariri op 29/08/2005 om 19:24:00
http://www.ircam.ma/ecoleamazighe/menu.htm


Mlih mlih... ;)

WAH, mlih!

aqzin yesen Tamazight ura ma amazigh noer dixsan....

azul azul

;D

Aqzin nni yesghura yinni war yeghrin....
#1027
Citaat van: The proton op 18/10/2005 om 00:24:53
Citaat van: Idir op 18/10/2005 om 00:18:09

aha...
daarom zegt men zeker ook ; yewttast (hij heeft haar ge****)   of niet ???

hahahahahhahahahahaha

yewta s wa3moud

perhaps

S'ttkecut n'ni tamazyant... ;)
#1028

aha...
daarom zegt men zeker ook ; yewttast (hij heeft haar ge****)   of niet ???
#1029
Citaat van: Inuit op 17/10/2005 om 23:40:01
Citaat van: Idir op 17/10/2005 om 23:38:49
Citaat van: Inuit op 17/10/2005 om 23:27:44
Citaat van: Idir op 17/10/2005 om 23:26:46

anzar di tenzarin
a3mud di temgharin


::).................... ::)

Bron :  http://www.arifino.com/modules/articles/article.php?articleid=44
dat waren nog eens goeie tijden :)

Nou is het aâmudd ddi yaryazen yek... ;D
ewa twaarith, roega a3moeth thayneg ig'i tsar ;D

Ax isebbar arebbi waha... :D
#1030
Citaat van: Inuit op 17/10/2005 om 23:27:44
Citaat van: Idir op 17/10/2005 om 23:26:46

anzar di tenzarin
a3mud di temgharin


::).................... ::)

Bron :  http://www.arifino.com/modules/articles/article.php?articleid=44
dat waren nog eens goeie tijden :)

Nou is het aâmudd ddi yaryazen yek... ;D
#1031
Taal / Re: vingernamen in tamazight..
17/10/2005 om 23:37:49

Zie de reactie van Afazar voor de juiste benammingen :

http://www.amazigh.nl/aforum/index.php?topic=794.msg15123#msg15123
#1032
« di arrewdet, xmi itiri i3eTTar war yewti wenzar,
nteg "taslit n wenzar"
i7armucen d t7armucin, kessint aghenja,
teggen as arrud n tesrit...
wca gwan tghenjen
zi taddart gha taddart, zi dcar gha dchar
kur ij min i tic : 7ed itic aren, zzect, tamedja7t...
ghar tmeddit, nteg sek'su di tmezyida.
ntmun ghares marra!


seqsigh ijj umur yemma
tenn-ayi ttugha teggen "taslit n wenzar" zic deg wedrar...
maca lexxu, iwdan samhan dayes
di rkampo, aqa 3ad teggentet!!
tsned min tghenjen i7armucen?


ghitna, ghitna yallah
s waman inca3ellah
yarebbi tarwa temlum
an awi imedi d urum
lalla yemme 3ica
anzar ad i3ecca
lalla yemma saba7
anzar ad iseBBe7
anzar di tenzarin
a3mud di temgharin


::).................... ::)

Bron :  http://www.arifino.com/modules/articles/article.php?articleid=44
#1033
Cultuur / Re: bidden in het Tamazight.
17/10/2005 om 04:08:55
Citaat van: Timarzgha op 17/10/2005 om 03:54:44
Citaat van: Ariri op 17/10/2005 om 02:58:51
ik heb een begin gemaakt ;D

in plaats van alahuakbar zeg ik: arebi dameqran. is het zelffde toch?


azul azul
assalaam assalaam
Faqc3er teshmie des tshet rwagt ie3arres tiesiera3 ienes (aith wayager)(als een faqcer niets te doen heeft begint ie zijn schoenen kapot te maken!)

Amctta xmi war itif min-gha yeg igharres tisira n'nes... ;)
amctta = herder

allo allo :D
#1034
Cultuur / Re: bidden in het Tamazight.
17/10/2005 om 03:22:52

S yisem n yakuc amellay amnahagh (bismi allah irahman i rahim) ;)
#1035
Cultuur / Re: bidden in het Tamazight.
17/10/2005 om 03:05:21
Citaat van: Ariri op 17/10/2005 om 02:58:51
ik heb een begin gemaakt ;D

in plaats van alahuakbar zeg ik: arebi dameqran. is het zelffde toch?


azul azul

Akuc d amqran moet je zeggen... ;)